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Wednesday, May 12, 2010

The Disney deception

WARNING: Even a small dose of "fairy dust" may be lethal to your eternal spotless soul.

A little "angel" spoke to me. You may know her from her comments and also the NASA article - Orion's Belt Tied Around Freemason Astronauts. Her name is "Lenci" which is short for Valencia.

Disney's Magic Kingdom

Here is Lenci's comment which inspired me to write this article.
I was just sitting here contemplating this “weapon of mass destruction”, that being the music industry. As I watched Rihanna’s performance video on the Nickelodeon Awards, it occurred to me that the devil’s agenda is so evident yet our children have no idea (and that’s partly due to parents ignorance) of his plan to kill them! I know that sounded harsh, but it’s a reality. Seeing that satan was the minister of music in Heaven, it’s only fitting that his biggest weapon be music. It harmonizes perfectly (literally) with captivating the soul to its’ attractiveness. For me, music takes me to another dimension within my subconscious which is why it’s utterly important that I listen to positive, uplifting and God-praising music. At one time, I was heavily addicted to rock music and could never understand why I felt so drained every time I stopped listening to it. Now, I know it was the power of persuasion it had on me. I’d bob my head back and forth so hard I’d feel a second shy of having a seizure.

My heart cries out for Miley as she didn’t ask to be a product of MK. If the DNA factor is the culprit, well that would mean her deception was already predestined before she was even conceived. Which leads me to ask: “Does satan have the power to foresee his plan for someone who hasn’t even been born yet”? Sometimes I think, I think too hard……..
When she talked about Miley and that she might have been "predestined" to play this role, my first reaction was to immediately dismiss this possibility. But her comment merged in my mind with other comments I had read on other sites about the pattern of the careers of Disney child stars once they leave the "Magic Kingdom".

And I was also thinking about my last article on Cognitive Dissonance with regards to Miley's "Can't be tamed" video. And it occurred to me that a key element in this cog-diss was the previous Christian image that had been created around Miley's persona...

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... Could it be that this was all an intentional setup? A cynical con game? First lure in the suckers with a few rounds where their Christian God is the winner, and then when the stakes get high and all the souls of young teenage girls are on the table, the skilled master of slight-of-hand pulls out an unseen Ace from up his sleeve and cleans up.

Is that what this game is all about? First the "good" salesman, Disney, woos the parents of young girls until he gains their confidence and they offer their young offspring up to follow this seemingly harmless pied piper as he leads them dancing and singing through the Magic Kingdom.

The old evil Mickey vs. the new good Mickey
Mickey Mouse will get his debut feature game on the Wii with the newly announced Disney Epic Mickey... Looking at the screenshots and artwork it looks like Warren has taken Mickey back to its original roots with a more evil and mischievous look.

In the game’s fiction, a sorcerer named Yen Sid creates a beautiful, whimsically-twisted world where Disney’s forgotten and retired creations thrive. Originally, the powerful sorcerer from “The Sorcerer’s Apprentice” in Walt Disney’s 1940 film “Fantasia” was nicknamed “Yen Sid” [Disney spelled backwards] by Disney animators, although never named as such on screen. In Spector’s game, Oswald the Lucky Rabbit – Walt Disney’s first cartoon star created in 1927 – becomes the earliest inhabitant of Yen Sid’s Cartoon Wasteland after Mickey Mouse is created. Oswald makes the Cartoon Wasteland comfortable for other retired characters as they join him in this magical land. Years pass, and as Oswald dwells in the Cartoon Wasteland, he becomes resentful watching Mickey’s popularity swell. When Mickey curiously stumbles upon Yen Sid’s map, he makes an innocent yet terrible mistake and inadvertently devastates Oswald’s comfortable world. Eventually, Mickey’s mistake pulls him deep into the mysterious Cartoon Wasteland to face the destruction he unknowingly created.
And then once the young girls and their parents have dropped all their defenses and have entrusted all their hopes and dreams with him, this "good" salesman hands the "customer" off to his evil manager to finish the deal. By now the trusting parents and their naive young children are willing to sign any papers that are placed before them without even bothering to read them, because they have grown to trust this "company" through their long and personal relationship.

Having obtained the signatures from the parents granting him guardianship over the souls of their offspring the evil manager then sells the contract to his partners in this infernal business - the record companies, MTV, etc.

It sounds like the plot of a Disney cartoon - perhaps "101 Dalmatians" or "Snow White" - with an "evil witch" stand-in character and everything. Could this "fantasy" actually be a hidden warning about the reality of Disney's machinations?

Remember Pinocchio? I suggest reading Vigilant Citizen's article, "The Esoteric Interpretation of Pinocchio", which analyzes this Freemason inspired story to learn how this seemingly innocent tale is fraught with anti-Christian messages.


Remember the "Blue Fairy" in Pinocchio? (My notes appear in square brackets - "[]".)
The “Blue Fairy”, the representative of the Great God, then descends to earth to give Pinocchio a spark of the Universal Mind, the “Nous” of the Gnostics.

“It was affirmed by the Gnostic Christians that the redemption of humanity was assured through the descent of Nous (Universal Mind), who was a great spiritual being superior to the Demiurgus [creator god] and who, entering into the constitution of man, conferred conscious immortality upon the Demiurgic fabrications [mankind?].”
- Manly P. Hall, Secret Teachings of All Ages.
Who are the Gnostics?
The Gnostics, it is true, borrowed their terminology almost entirely from existing religions, but they only used it to illustrate their great idea of the essential evil of this present existence and the duty to escape it by the help of magic spells and a superhuman Saviour.
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This utter pessimism, bemoaning the existence of the whole universe as a corruption and a calamity, with a feverish craving to be freed from the body of this death and a mad hope that, if we only knew, we could by some mystic words undo the cursed spell of this existence — this is the foundation of all Gnostic thought.
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The second great component of Gnostic thought is magic, properly so called, i.e. the power ex opere operato of weird names, sounds, gestures, and actions, as also the mixture of elements to produce effects totally disproportionate to the cause. These magic formulae, which caused laughter and disgust to outsiders, are not a later and accidental corruption, but an essential part of Gnosticism, for they are found in all forms of Christian Gnosticism and likewise in Mandaeism. No Gnosis was essentially complete without the knowledge of the formulae, which, once pronounced, were the undoing of the higher hostile powers. Magic is the original sin of Gnosticism, nor is it difficult to guess whence it is inherited. To a certain extent it formed part of every pagan religion, especially the ancient mysteries, yet the thousands of magic tablets unearthed is Assyria and Babylonia show us where the rankest growth of magic was to be found.
This gives a whole new meaning to Disney's "Magic Kingdom", doesn't it? Consider this. When is the last time you heard Christ mentioned on the Disney Channel?

Another connection to Miley Cyrus and the Great Whore of Babylon

Coincidentally, Gnosticism seems to have its origins in Babylon. This struck me when I read it because in my first article on Miley's "Can't be tamed" video I drew parallels between the manner in which Miley was depicted and the Babylonian goddess Ishtar. And I mentioned specifically the conquest of Babylon by the Persian (Iranian) king Cyrus the Great.

Cyrus the Great - King of Persia and conquerer of Babylon

And again going back to Lenci's comment, Miley's last name, Cyrus, coincides with the name of this great conqueror who is mentioned numerous times in the Bible. So is it possible as Lenci suggests that Miley was pre-destined to play the role of Ishtar? I have no comment, but it is a disturbing thought nonetheless.
When Cyrus [the Great of Persia] entered Babylon in 539 B.C., two great worlds of thought met, and syncretism in religion, as far as we know it, began. Iranian thought began to mix with the ancient civilization of Babylon. The idea of the great struggle between evil and good, ever continuing in this universe, is the parent idea of Mazdeism, or Iranian dualism. This, and the imagined existence of numberless intermediate spirits, angels and devas, are the conviction which overcame the contentedness of Semitism.

On the other hand, the unshakable trust in astrology, the persuasion that the planetary system had a fatalistic influence on this world's affairs, stood its ground on the soil of Chaldea. The greatness of the Seven — the Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, the Sun, Jupiter, and Saturn — the sacred Hebdomad, symbolized for millenniums by the staged towers of Babylonia, remained undiminished. They ceased, indeed, to be worshipped as deities, but they remained archontes and dynameis, rules and powers whose almost irresistible force was dreaded by man. Practically, they were changed from gods to devas, or evil spirits. The religions of the invaders and of the invaded effected a compromise: the astral faith of Babylon was true, but beyond the Hebodomad [the seven divinities as represented by celestial bodies] was the infinite light in the Ogdoad [Supreme being - Lucifer?], and every human soul had to pass the adverse influence of the god or gods of the Hebdomad [the seven divinities] before it could ascend to the only good God beyond. This ascent of the soul through the planetary spheres to the heaven beyond (an idea not unknown even to ancient Babylonian speculations) began to be conceived as a struggle with adverse powers, and became the first and predominant idea in Gnosticism.
Let me attempt to summarize this passage, and explain its significance. Gnosticism first appeared when the Persians - today's Iran - conquered the Babylonians. As I mentioned in my previous article - Miley Cyrus - the Great Whore of Babylon - the rulers of Babylon at the time of the conquest were the Chaldeans. And the Chaldean's worshiped the female goddess Ishtar, who we know from the Bible as the Great Whore of Babylon. And as I also mentioned, Miley's public persona seems to be fashioned after Ishtar.

Gnosticism then emerges out of the syncretism of Persian and Chaldean (Babylonian) religious beliefs. Syncretism simply means the combining of two religions into one. In this new religion a supreme god emerges. It's not clear whether that supreme god is in some way related to Ishtar, but I have my suspicions that it is.

Ishtar is also Venus (the love-sex goddess), the morning star. And Lucifer also refers to the morning star. Prometheus as we have seen is closely related to Lucifer since they are both bringers of light/fire to the mortals on Earth. This brings me to the conclusion that Ishtar is a female manifestation of Lucifer-Prometheus. And that Ishtar-Lucifer-Prometheus is the supreme god of the Gnostics. But I want to emphasize that the origins lie with the Chaldean (Babylonian) goddess of Ishtar which was then adopted by the conquering Persians and transformed to fit into their system of beliefs.

Since the Persians at that time controlled the greatest empire in the western world, these beliefs would have been able to spread widely throughout the Persian Empire. Then when the Persians were conquered by Alexander the Great of Greece (actually Macedonia), they could have spread even farther while going through another syncretic transformation. And when finally the Romans conquered the Greeks, there would have been yet another transformation and further dissemination of the Gnostic beliefs and the accompanying cult of Ishtar.

This would have come to an abrupt halt with the adoption of Christianity by the Roman Emperor Constantine in 312 A.D. It can be assumed that the Christians would not have tolerated the lack of morality and the use of sex in religious ceremonies that traces it roots back to the cult of Ishtar. From thereon the Gnostic church would have been forced to go underground and its followers would have had to disguise their beliefs and system of worship by pretending to be worshipers of Christ.

This is similar to the actions of the Freemasons, who do not worship the God of the Christian faith, but some other supreme being whom many have concluded to be Lucifer. And if my suspicions are correct than Lucifer himself is a disguise for Ishtar. While Lucifer is publicly promoted through the myth of  Prometheus as publicly displayed in Rockefeller Center and as symbolically depicted in the current Iron Man 2 movie.

Since Ishtar is connected to Lucifer through the origins of the Gnostic beliefs in Babylon, any association of Miley Cyrus with Ishtar actually takes on a much greater significance.

It is important to understand how the Gnostics view the God of the Bible. The Christian God is viewed as a "false god" which is inferior and subordinate to the supreme being of the Gnostics. He is also associated with Zeus, the king of the Greek gods, which again makes the connection with Greek myth of Prometheus.
The introduction of a distinct creator God or demiurge. Which is an illusion and as a later emanation from the single monad or source, this second God is a lesser and inferior or false God. [or "God of the masses"]
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The demiurge as a tyrannical God having caused the imperfect material world and all of its suffering, is as the creator God of the pagan philosophers (Zeus) and the Judaeo-Christian-Islamic creator God (Yahweh or Adonai) not real but a construct or illusion of the human mind (as nous).
Given all this, we can see the connection between Gnosticism, Freemasons and the occult. And we can see how Disney through its promotion of "magic" assists this coalition in achieving their goals. It should not, then, come as a complete surprise that Disney would be used to cultivate young female talents which can be ritualistically transformed into new age priestesses of the cult of Ishtar - the Great Whore of Babylon.

Was Walt Disney a Freemason?

Yes and no. Like ex-President Bill Clinton, Walt Disney belonged to a Freemason youth group called the "Order of DeMolay".

Walt Disney's evil alter ego - "Yen Sid"

It appears to me from the information below that Walt Disney inserted himself into the well-known Disney classic "The Sorcerer's Apprentice", from the 1940 film Fantasia. His alter ego is a powerful magician.

Sid is also the name of the "disturbed, hyperactive, sadistic 10-year-old boy and the main antagonist" of the original Toy Story computer animated film. Sid is short for "Sidney", which is of course an anagram for Disney. Toy Story was significant because "it was the first feature film released to use only computer-generated imagery."

From Wikipedia's entry on "Yen Sid".
Yen Sid ["Disney" spelled backwards] is the powerful sorcerer in the segment The Sorcerer's Apprentice, from Disney's 1940 film Fantasia. He appears as an old man with a long beard and robes that extended to the floor....Film historians believed Fred Moore [see below] added the same sized nose as Walt Disney's nose, and even added the same eyebrow length as Walt Disney's eyebrows.

Yen Sid serves as the sorcerer under whom Mickey Mouse is an apprentice. After executing a series of spells of summoning light out of a skull, changing its appearance as Mickey witnessed it while in the middle of his chores, Yen Sid decides to take a rest as he leaves his hat behind. From there, Mickey takes the hat and uses its magic to bring a broom to life...

Walt Disney wearing a not-so-magic hat

Yen Sid giving Mickey the Evil Eye for stealing his Wizard's Hat

From Wikipedia's Fantasia article.
After nearly drowning in a giant whirlpool, Mickey is rescued by the wizard [Yen Sid], who returns and magically halts the flood and causes all the brooms to vanish. Angrily, he surveys the damage wrought by his apprentice (giving what Disney animators termed "The Dirty Disney Look"; the one raised eyebrow was an oft-repeated stare of disapproval from their boss). The embarrassed apprentice sheepishly defers to his master and returns to his work. The wizard displays a hint of a smile, secretly enjoying the humor of the situation, and hits him on the behind with the now inanimate broom, sending him scurrying from the room.

Who is Fred Moore?

He was a natural artist who became the Mickey "expert" at Disney studios. It appears that Fred Moore's alter ego in Disney cartoons may have been Lampwick from the 1940 film Pinocchio -  "a naughty boy Pinocchio meets and befriends on his way to Pleasure Island. He turns into a donkey while the boys are shooting pool." (Notice that Fantasia was also released in 1940,)

Fred Moore

Lampwick from Pinnochio

From Wikipedia article on Fred Moore.
Moore is best known for being the resident specialist in the animation of Mickey Mouse. He is most notable for re-designing the character in 1938 for his landmark role as The Sorcerer's Apprentice in Fantasia, a look which remains Mickey's official look to this day.
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Moore was well-known around the studio for his drawings of innocently sexy, often nude, women, referred to as "Freddie Moore Girls." Some of his girl designs found their way into Disney films: for example, the centaurettes in Fantasia and the teenage girls in the "All the Cats Join In" segment of Make Mine Music.
You can see the complete "Pastoral Symphony from Fantasia" which features Moore's "sexy" (or sexist) centaurettes here. Notice also the racist depiction of a smaller darker centaurette with obvious African-American facial features.

35 comments:

  1. UPDATE - I added some information about Walt Disney's alter ego Yen Sid - a powerful magician. "Yen Sid" is Disney spelled backwards.

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  2. Magic Kingdom.....any1 else notice the first letter of each word??

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  3. MK. Ha! Now that's REALLY stretching it. :) Speaking of stretching it, there's this article that claims there are secret tunnels under Disney's MK which the CIA used for MK programming. Aside from that, the article does have some good information about the darker side of Disney.
    The Disney Bloodline - The Skill Of Lying, The Art Of Deceit

    I just realized I unconsciously copied the name of this post from that article.

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  4. Yeah, things get a bit crazy when you involve synchronicity. The MK thing is interesting, but I'm not sure when the term "Mind Kontrol" was coined.

    Hey I found this great message by a pastor who's not afraid to speak the truth, his name is Paul Washer. I think his message is important for everyone in north america who grew up with modern christianity. Check it out!

    A Shocking Youth Message:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncEhCvrVgQ

    By the way, I'm really glad you're looking into Disney. I grew up on Disney so I never questioned it until recently. Tons of people still have no idea how sinister Disney really is, and even if I tried to tell them they wouldn't believe me. Kind of like "My child would never do that!" = "My Disney would never do that! It's good wholesome television and entertainment!"

    Well every single Disney star that breaks out turns out to be unwholesome and morally bankrupt. But they still have the facade of being "a good christian girl" like Miley Cyrus. BAM

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  5. Hi Victoria. I didn't want to respond until I had a chance to watch the YouTube video. The part I liked was his critical stance on Christianity in America. Where he kind of threw me off was towards the end when he started praying for American missionaries to go to South America and Africa. I would have thought the logical conclusion would be that maybe they should send missionaries here. :)

    Actually I think we need missionaries to go to Hollywood and Disney and NBC. And Sony records and MTV. And Capitol Hill. And the schools and the workplaces in America. And to PBS and NPR. And perhaps, even to the Churches in America.

    And Madison Avenue (the marketing people) and Wall Street. And to the Insurance Companies. And to the Rockefeller and Ford Foundations.

    They could start by demanding the removal of the statue of Prometheus in Rockefeller Center. And then demand that the All-Seeing Eye be removed from the Dollar Bill.

    The anti-Christian forces keep saying that they want a secular country, but they don't see anything wrong with erecting statues to pagan gods and having Freemason symbols on display in all branches of the US government.

    Which gets us back to Disney. Like you, I never questioned them at all until very recently. (Other than thinking of them as aggressively marketing their products to young children.)

    I feel like I need to add a conclusion to this article, because I'm not sure the point came across clearly. There are two points. (Its sort of two articles in one.)

    The first is that Disney is deliberately putting these starlets up on a Christian pedestal so that there will be a dissonant reaction in their fans when the "good girl goes bad". The size of the seismic shock is increased by first lifting the starlets up as high as possible, so that later they can come crashing down and cause a huge dissonant earthquake which will shake their young fans moral foundations.

    The second is that Disney is promoting Gnosticism, which has as a primary component a belief in magical systems and spells. And has as a secondary component the worship of the cult of Ishtar which involves ritual sex.

    Disney focuses on the first component of Gnosticism which is the indoctrination of young children into belief in magic as a substitute for religion. The secondary part of which is the indoctrination into the cult of Ishtar is left for MTV videos and Hollywood films with themes of sex, horror and violence

    The strange part is that the same people that are rejecting religion because it is anti-scientific, turn around and adopt magic. Yet that is what Freemasons do. They reject religion in favor of science and then offer up Gnostic worship of Lucifer-Prometheus-Ishtar as an alternative.

    And what about the "Church of Scientology"? Just the name itself screams out, that they believe in science over religion. I took a quick peek at its beliefs at Wikipedia, and it seems that it lines up pretty well with the Gnostics.

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  6. For accurate information on Scientology, please see xenu.net. The Wikipedia version is very whitewashed (in order to provide "balance").

    These guys have nothing to do with science (in fact, they fight with the established science of physiology) or gnosticism (well, they copied one idea from there).

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  7. Anon - Russia has refused to recognize Scientology as a religion.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scientology_Moscow_v._Russia
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    The Church of Scientology Moscow v Russia is a European Court of Human Rights case, concerning Article 11 of the Convention. In the case the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg condemned Moscow City Government's refusal to consider the Church of Scientology of Moscow for registration as a religious organisation.
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    Meanwhile, how many actors in Hollywood are actively promoting this cult? How is it that the former "godless communists" are the ones leading the fight against this neo-paganism?

    As I mention above, there is a strange relationship between these gnostic cults (Scientology, Freemason, etc.) and science. They use science as a "shield" to hide behind as they attack religion. The "sword" - which most people never become consciously aware of - is the occult worship of various forms of satanic gods. The ones I have identified are Prometheus-Lucifer-Ishtar. But this also goes back to Egyptian gods such as the Egyptian trilogy of Isis-Osiris-Horus. And cults practiced by the Greeks and Romans such as Bacchus and Dionysius.

    Which makes me finally realize why the transhumanists, such as Aldous Huxley, place such a high value on the use of hallucinogenics such as LSD. It is because this forms an important part of the ritualistic orgies that are central to the worship of their gods such as Ishtar and Dionysius.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysus
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    The ancient Greek god of wine, the god who inspires ritual madness, joyful worship, and ecstasy, carnivals, celebration and a major figure of Greek mythology. He is included as one of the twelve Olympians in some lists. Dionysus is typical of the god of the epiphany, "the god that comes". He was also known as Bacchus, the name adopted by the Romans[2] and the frenzy he induces, bakkheia. In addition to winemaking, he is the patron deity of agriculture and the theater. Hailed as an Asiatic foreigner, he was thought to have had strong ties to the East and to Ethiopia in the South. He was also known as the Liberator (Eleutherios), freeing one from one's normal self, by madness, ecstasy or wine.
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    "God of the theater" - how appropriate is that given Hollywood's involvement in various forms of his cult? Whether your call it the cult of Ishtar, Scientology, or Freemasonry.

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  8. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjehii-jjHE&feature=player_embedded

    Guess you don't have to wait till they are teenagers anymore for these messages to take effect.

    SWW

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  9. SWW - I thought about deleting that comment. It's very saddening and disturbing. (And to think that the Pilgrims were Puritans who dressed in black.) I'm sure that each and everyone of those little girls' dreams is to have their own show on Disney. Ditto for their parents. What they don't realize is that by going "bad" prematurely in a public way, they have ruined their chances.

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  10. Hello my friend! You have indeed thrown me for yet another loop…(blushing). ;-)

    This morning, while fulfilling my daily obligation of doing my daughter’s hair, Mickey Mouse’ Playhouse came on and it made me nauseous and bit infuriated. She asked me: “Moma, how come Goofy walks on two legs, but Pluto has to walk on all fours and they’re both dogs”? This curiosity baffled me as all I could think was: “Baby, if only you knew the whole story”! How in the world do I cautiously and tenderly alert her to the agenda without snatching away what she’s known to be her favorite channel ever since she could crawl? Yet, I know in my soul that she’s purposely being exposed to demonic forces that seek to invade her innocence? Note: I searched for evidence of the underground MK operation at Disneyland/Disney World, and of course it was discounted as an “urban legend” which is most likely a ploy to dissuade. (If you have sound evidence, please do share)

    She was quite receptive to my explaining that Miley Cyrus was to no longer be deemed an age-appropriate artist for her (she’s only 10 years old). So now, the new fascination is with Justin Bieber and it’s only a matter of time before he’s forfeited the “respectful” appropriate nuance of entertainment.

    I no longer purchase clothing for her with butterflies, peace signs, crossbones, checkerboards, black/white stripes, et al. because I know the message behind them. Yet, she trusts me and doesn’t question why I’ve made this decision for which I am grateful. Now I can appreciate why the Amish live as they do.

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  11. Lenci - Now that I look at the Disney Castle, it does look like a church - doesn't it?

    Your daughter asks a good question about Pluto and Goofy. That always confused me as a kid too. There must be something behind it.

    I think at a certain age, It's probably OK to deal in fairy tales. It's as kids get a little older and they stop believing in fairy tales, but begin to believe in magic that I would get more concerned. So you probably want to start weaning her off of that now. And at some point, block that channel. You should give her an age appropriate reason, so that she just doesn't go over to her friends house and binges on Disney Channel shows.

    I don't pay too much attention to some of the more radical MK theories. There's just too much disinformation out there and there's no way to prove it one way or the other. It's like trying to prove that aliens have visited the Earth. It's just not worth pursuing.

    I can't believe that Hannah Montana is going to run for another season. If Disney wasn't in on the whole "deception" then they would have canceled her show after the release of the "can't be tamed" video.

    I think Victoria already mentioned Justin Bieber. I definitely wouldn't suggest buying a big poster and hanging it up in her room. Just don't feed into it like some parents do.

    I'm not sure there is anything wrong with the occasional butterfly. We have to reassert control over these symbols. But yes, I see your point.

    The Amish have these big debates before adopting any new technology. I think a big one was about zippers. They decided it against it - sticking with buttons instead. Well, you have to draw the line somewhere.

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  12. "As I mention above, there is a strange relationship between these gnostic cults (Scientology, Freemason, etc.) and science. "

    Again: I take issue with labeling CoS a "gnostic cult". For starters, there are no aliens in Gnosticism. Gnosticism has a long philosophical tradition and philosophical basis of CoS is, well, not so much developed. Also, CoS is not a neo-pagan cult, by a commonly used definition of neo-paganism (pagans basically worship nature, CoS doesn't). So CoS is quite a unique idea.

    "Russia has refused to recognize Scientology as a religion."

    I am not aware of this, but I am aware of the situation in Germany. Probably the following (from Wikipedia) applies to Russia as well:

    "The German government considers Scientology "an organization pursuing commercial interests". Scientology is not classified as a non-profit organization in Germany, [...] The German embassy in Washington has said that the German government believed Scientology's "pseudo-scientific courses can seriously jeopardise individuals' mental and physical health, and that it exploits its members."

    Note the word PSEUDO-scientific. All the CoS has to do with science is 5 letters in the name.

    "They use science as a "shield" to hide behind as they attack religion."

    Only because certain churches, which insist on a very literal reading of the Scripture, are giving them free ammunition.

    "Now that I look at the Disney Castle, it does look like a church - doesn't it?"

    It's actually modeled after a German castle named Neuschwanstein.

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  13. anonymous - I think you may be taking Scientology beliefs too literally. The gnostics beliefs involved the role of the Elohim, which some people interpret as aliens. The "aliens" of Hubbard may actually be a symbolic reference to the Elohim.

    The Wikipedia article on Scientology mentions three times that some beliefs of Scientology bear resemblance to gnosticism. But what do they know?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology
    << The material contained in the OT levels [higher levels of initiation] has been characterized as bad science fiction by critics, while others claim it bears structural similarities to gnostic thought and ancient Hindu myths of creation and cosmic struggle. >>

    Scientology like all "secret societies" reveals one "truth" to outsiders (exoteric), and another "truth" to insiders (esoteric). I have no interest in spending the time to learn about the esoteric teachings of Scientology. I merely suggest that like in Freemasonry, only the top level insiders (33rd degree?) are privy to the true nature of their religion. Why don't you ask these questions you have to John Travolta or Tom Cruise?

    (Here's a list of some Scientology celebrities. Notice Lisa Marie Presley - the daughter of Elvis Presley and former wife of Michael Jackson.)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scientologists

    And again with the Disney castle, you seem willing to accept the literal interpretation of its origins offered up by Disney itself instead of digging deeper into its symbolic significance. Just use your own eyes and look at the spire that rises above it and you can see clearly the resemblance to a church steeple. It really doesn't take much imagination, you just have to be willing to accept what your eyes see - instead of what your mind has been told by the corporate media.

    Religion (as I have said before) does not seek to be an antagonist to science, it merely demands that moral bounds be placed on science. You certainly wouldn't want to live in a world in which any type of scientific experiment would be permissible - no matter the consequences to human life.

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  14. Lenci - I was just re-reading this article. When I got to where you said Miley was "pre-destined", my mind flashed to Miley's birth name:
    Destiny Hope Cyrus

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miley_Cyrus
    "Cyrus’ parents named her Destiny Hope because they believed that she would accomplish great things."

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  15. Thank you. I've been concerned about Disney for a while. I've been reading articles here and on Vigilant Citizen and I'm confused about exactly who is behind the images and agenda. If the artists are puppets, is it the media companies or a bigger more sinister organization? Are the artists aware of what they are doing or is it just the price of fame?

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  16. Cheryl - I will assume that you are a Christian. And by that I mean that you have allowed Christ to abide in you. That is what we do when we take Holy Communion. We allow Christ to enter into our bodies and take control of our lives.

    So when you say "a bigger more sinister organization", I assume you are referring to demonic forces. And even if that is not what you intended, I will answer as if it was.

    The forces of evil have been at work since before Jesus Christ came to live among us over two thousand years ago. Therefore as soon as Christ appeared they began to attack Him and consequently the Christian Church. Today is no different.

    As I discussed in this article, some of those forces are the Freemasons and the Gnostics. I have concluded that Disney was a gnostic believer from everything I have learned about him, and from the values that he promoted.

    The Gnostic cult is particularly diabolical because it pretends to accept most of the teachings of Christianity. It provides distorted interpretations of the Bible and Christ's teachings. But behind it all, is the same old cult of Ishtar which engages in ritualistic sexual worship. You can see clear examples of this in the recent videos by Miley Cyrus and Christina Aguilera.

    The real revelation for me has been that it's not that Disney Studios went bad after the death of Walt Disney. It was bad from the beginning - all the way to the core. As the gnostic agenda is progressively adopted by society, the message gets turned up a notch. That is what you are seeing now. But this is still not the end.

    The good news is that there is a real opportunity here because at this stage of their agenda they are forced to expose themselves like never before. As more people become aware of their satanic plans, my hope is that there will be a counter reaction that once more will unleash the forces of Christianity agains the satanic forces. Still, this will not be easily done after so many years of indoctrination by Disney and others.

    Peace be with you,
    baba

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    In 1884, Pope Leo XIII had a vision. In it he saw a confrontation between Jesus and Satan.
    http://www.rosaryworkshop.com/PRAYER-St-Michael.html

    ***
    Satan told Jesus if given time and enough power, he would destroy the Church. Jesus asked in return, 'How much time and how much power?' Satan's reply was one century and more influence over those who would follow him. The Holy Father said he heard Jesus say "So be it."
    ***

    In response the Pope ordered this prayer to the Archangel St. Michael be said after every Mass.

    "Saint Michael, the Archangel, defend us in the battle. Be our protection against the malice and snares of the Devil. We humbly beseech God to command him. And do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the powers of God, cast into Hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls."

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  17. What an interesting last comment baba, I think dreams can be in occasions very telling.
    Thank you for all your work.

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  18. Ride - Thanks for your kind words. I came upon the prayer to the Archangel St. Michael quite by accident just in the last few days. I was so struck by it, that I wanted to know its origins. I was quite surprised to discover the events that surrounded its inception.

    Even more surprising is the similarity with my own "vision" of St. Michael which I elaborated on in the article titled, "Agnostica Eugenica Transhumana - A Dragon's tail". If you read the comments, you'll see that I had very little knowledge of St. Michael before writing it. I had actually meant to use St. George, and it was only after I started searching for images of St. Michael for the article that I realized my confusion. But of course it all worked out because St. Michael was also a type of "dragon slayer".

    What also struck me was the date of the vision of Pope Leo XIII. It was 1884. In my article, I describe St. Michael taking me back to 1883 to see Galton - the founder of eugenics - feeding a dragon. The significance of 1883 is that this was the year that Galton invented the term "eugenics".

    So I can't help but feel that the Pope's vision was related to this new threat. Eugenics is a particularly potent and pernicious form of gnosticism. Perhaps we'll never know how many babies have been aborted due to the influence of the eugenics movement on society. This is nothing short of infanticide and it is directed mainly at the poor around the world. (I can't help but be reminded of "the slaughter of the innocents" at the time of the birth of Christ.)

    Pope Leo XIII along with Pope John XXIII and Pope John Paul II have emphasized to Catholics the importance of praying the Holy Rosary.

    Pope Leo XIIi made the following statement in 1894 while urging Catholics to pray the Rosary. In it you can see the attacks by the Gnostics of that time against Christianity. We are seeing the same attacks happening today.

    http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_le13is.htm
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    Amongst so many causes of grief to all good men, and to Ourself, not the least is this, that in the very midst of Catholic nations there exist persons who are ever ready to rejoice in that which insults and outrages our august religion; and that they themselves, with incredible effrontery and with all publicity, seize every opportunity of teaching the multitude to hold reverend things in contempt and of persuading them from their old confidence in the intercession of the Blessed Virgin. During the last months the very person of Our Divine Redeemer has not been spared. Such a depth of shameless indignity has been reached that Jesus Christ Himself has been dragged upon the stage of a theater often contaminated with corruptions, and has been represented there discrowned of that Divinity upon which rests the whole work of human salvation. And the last touch of shame was added in an attempt to rescue from the execration of ages the guilty name of him [Lucifer] who was the very sign of perfidy, the betrayer of Christ.
    ***

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  19. bless you!

    good work

    u are appreciated.

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  20. Anonymous - Thanks. And thanks for taking the time to inform yourself. I know that so many of us are too busy with our everyday lives to take the time to look into these issues. I have been fortunate to have some time off to dedicate to investigating how the corporate media is undermining the morals of our children. And it seems like every time I turn over a new stone, I find another snake.

    The backlash is coming. We just have to be sure that it is a legitimate backlash and not a staged one. An example of a staged backlash is the furor over Gay Days at Disney. The implication is that Disney is otherwise a family friendly corporation. Not true. The message should be more anti-Disney, and less anti-gay. The whole anti-gay part of the message is a red herring designed to divert attention from Disney's other issues.

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  21. baba,

    I've decided to start blogging again. I'd started in 2006, but four years ago, I was completely insane. Anyway, if it's not a problem with you, I would like to mention your blog periodically.

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  22. Lenci - Four years ago, I thought I was a "good" person. Little did I know. It's easy to become insane when we're living in an insane society.

    You have my absolute permission to reference my blog as many times as you wish. Hopefully, in a good way. :)

    Please leave me a link to your blog in one of the comments. If you don't want me to publish it, just say so (IN CAPS) in your comment and I will just read it and then delete it.

    I can do this because I'm moderating all comments and don't publish any until I have had a chance to read them and approve them. I'm doing this because I don't want my blog to become a platform for those who hold views opposite my own. They are entitled to their opinions and are free to express them on their own blogs or on other sites.

    This is not to say that I will automatically reject any comment that challenges my perspective. In fact I welcome constructive criticism and thrive on a challenge. I just want to make sure that the dialogue remains respectful and informative. Now THAT'S something you don't see on the internet too often. :)

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  23. Baba, I know you may not publish this comment, but thats not my intention. you said that when we take 'Holy communion', we "allow Christ to enter into our bodies and take control of our lives.".

    As you know, the way Christ can dwell in us is through his Holy Spirit dwelling in us.
    But you see, no where in the Bible did people receive the Holy Spirit through communion. In the last supper Jesus told his desciples 'this is my body, broken for you. do this in rememberance of me'. Communinion is an act of remembering that Jesus' blood was spilled and his flesh was broken for us. but nowhwere did he say that 'I will dwell in you when you do this'.
    In the book of John chapter 14 verse 16-20, and 15:26 Jesus was telling his disciples that when he leaves, he will send the 'Comforter', that is, the Holy Ghost. As I know you know, that comforter came on the day of Pentecost. In Acts 2, we see that it came as a 'sound of a mighty rushing wind' and the people began to 'speak with other tongues'. (vs 4).
    I guess what I am trying to say is that we can see that in the Bible, nowhere did they receive the Holy Ghost through communion.
    I know many say that people spoke in tongues only in that day. but in Acts chapter 10:46, which was 8 years after pentecost, when the Italian general and his family received the Holy Ghost, they also spoke 'with tongues'. And even 22 years after the day of pentecost, in Acts 19:2-6, when "the Holy Ghost came on them, they spake with tongues, and prophesied".
    So you see, the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of trueth, didnt come through the act of communion. communion is what Jesus said we should do to remember what he did for us. And although many people think it;'s weired, (just as the people in the day of pentecost thought), the Bible never said that we will no longer speak in tongues. Speaking in tongues is 'evidence' that we do indeed have the Spirit of trueth in us. And people, including myself, speak in tongues even today.

    Now I know you are Catholic, and I am not trying to disrespect you or your beliefs. I just wanted to let you know.

    If you sincerely kneel down and pray, repent (as we all sin everyday!), and then ask God to fill you, just like he filled the people on the day of pentecost, then he will.
    Like I said, I just wanted to share this with you. I love you and what you do here, and I truely believe that God is using you and showing you signs that we as ordinary people wont know. But please consider the words of this message. I use a 'King James' version of the Bible, cause that is the closest interpretation to the Hebrew/Greek text. Have a look at the verses, and see how they are said there.

    Like I said, I know you are Catholic, I am an Apostolic. But this is not about religion or denomination, this is about the Word of God.

    I hope you read this with an open heart, and dont be offended.

    I greet you and Love you with the love of Christ.
    Take carex

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  24. I appreciate all your articles! They prove everything I have expected over the years. Me and some co workers were discussing miley cyrus and I started to realize that all the disney stars (which was already mentioned) start off all wholesome than somehow they become whores! Making out with girls on tv, grinding on 40 yr old men at a club (miley), the occasional "whoops did you see my vagina as i got in the car" and the whoops naked photos but I haven't seen that same pattern with nickalodean stars or do we just not pay too much attention to them?!


    And Miley Cyrus real name is Destiney Hope Cyrus so I guess it was really pre-'Destiney-ed'

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  25. Errr... The pope had a vision in 1884.... A century passed by... 1984? It's weird making connections, mind-bogglingly scary.

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  26. Cryo - Yes, I had the same thought about 1984.

    It also appears to me to be related to the vision of Fatima which occurred in 1917:

    "To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of Reparation on the First Saturdays. If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me and she will be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world."

    Pope John Paul II consecrated Russia to the Virgin Mary in 1982, exactly a year after he was shot in an assassination attempt. But because of some confusion he re-consecrated Russia and the World to the Virgin Mary in 1984. Sister Lucia who had been one of the children who received the vision in Fatima in 1917 confirmed that “Yes it has been done just as Our Lady asked, on 25 March 1984”.

    THE MESSAGE
    OF FATIMA


    Miracle Of Our Lady Of Fatima Portugal 1917

    Consecration of Russia

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  27. Hey Baba,
    Maybe you could think about doing a Life in the Spirit Seminar. If you have not done it before. It will probably help you with the charismatic style of the Holy Spirit. I did one as a teenager, but maybe this summer it is time to do another.
    Keep on trucking!
    SWW

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  28. SWW - Thanks for the suggestion. I'm planning on going on some sort of Catholic retreat in the next few months.

    Regarding the charismatic style, I could not help but thinking that some of the "speaking in tongues" was just gibberish. And I can't see how this could possibly help with inviting the Holy Spirit into our lives.

    As you know, I recently had an experience with the Holy Spirit at Catholic Mass, but it was not a charismatic service. Although, as it turns out the priest (actually a deacon) that performed the Mass is an advocate of the charismatic style.

    The reason I have taken a break from Public Vigil over the last few days is because I felt the guidance of the Holy Spirit telling me that I need to do some "spring cleaning". I have been busy getting out the old clutter around the house and working on the yard. I have also been taking better care of myself in terms of diet and hygiene.

    Now that I have the Holy Spirit living in me, I want to give to It the best possible abode. It is kind of like when you want to look your best to impress a date, only in this case I'm doing it for a much higher cause. :)

    So don't worry. I'm still full of the power and energy of the Spirit which has been driving this blog, it's just that I've been focusing that energy in a different direction.

    I'm hoping to publish a new article today. It's already written for the most part. It's just that I was thinking of adding something about Fatima (see comment above) to the article, and it's been a while since I have read about the miracle of 1917 and the associated vision and prophecies. So I wasn't quite sure if it would be appropriate or not. And also, if I'm going to cover the topic of Fatima then I want to give it the full justice it deserves.

    In my mind, I associate the apparition of the Virgin Mary at Fatima with the apparition at Lourdes. And sometimes I get them confused or mixed together. But in a good way I hope.

    SWW, I hope you do take advantage this summer to go on a religious retreat or take a seminar. Maybe this can be a new kind of "summer of love". Not like the one in 1969 when Woodstock took place, which was a profane type of "love". But one in which the True Love of our Lord Jesus Christ is invoked and - like the miracle of the bread and the fishes - is multiplied.

    With God all things are possible,
    baba

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  29. Hey Baba,

    It is funny that you spoke about diet. One of the readings that I get from One Bread One Body spoke about how food shapes you. It is so true!

    Currently I am being shaped by quite a bit of chocolate :) but that is beside my point.

    I know that when you hear tongues, it may be perceived as gibberish, but when it is a true gift, it a direct language to God.

    It is like being in a foreign country and hearing someone speak English, or a love language with your hubby. Only the person who it is meant for understands it.

    During your retreat, ask to be blessed with the release of tongues and discernment of tongues.

    Looking forward to your next...and Happy decluttering!

    SWW

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  30. SWW - To me the Holy Spirit is a constant presence in my life. It is my constant guide and adviser. It is my friend that is always with me. It is the source of my strength and the One the directs my actions. As I am typing out these words, I am asking the Holy Spirit to speak through me.

    Today we have Google to translate languages. We don't need the Holy Spirit to do that for us. :) But we do need the Holy Spirit to be able to discern between the forces of God, and the forces of Evil that surround us.

    It's interesting though that in the Bible the advent of different languages is associated with the Tower of Babel (not baba) which is associated with Babylon (Babel-on).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel

    And well that's interesting because of the connection between Babylon and the cult of Ishtar which I began writing about with regards to Miley Cyrus. But which I have now begun to connect more broadly with Lucifer and Prometheus and the whole Freemason-Gnostic belief system which has slowly crept into society like a choking vine (or a snake).

    It is also very interesting that at Pentecost the Apostles of Jesus were immediately able to "speak in tongues" as soon as the Holy Spirit descended upon them. It's funny that some of those who heard this said that "they have had too much new wine." And that St. Peter was forced to reply that "these people are not drunk... for it is only nine in the morning."
    http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/acts/acts2.htm
    This is interesting to me because lately I feel almost as if I were "high" with the energy I have been blessed to receive.


    The Catholic Encyclopedia has an in depth article on the Holy Ghost (Holy Spirit). Catholic teaching tends to focus on the "seven gifts" of the Holy Spirit - wisdom, understanding, counsel, fortitude, knowledge, piety and fear.
    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07409a.htm
    But the article also talks about nine "charismata". It does however say that these were more common in the "Apostolic Age".

    P.S. I assume you noticed that I'm using as my icon the symbol of the Holy Spirit in the form of a dove.

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  31. I like your site a lot, Baba, and am glad you decided to be a Catholic; however, I, as a lifelong Catholic brought up by two well educated parents taught well by Jesuits before Vatican II was constantly looking from the time of my youth (1964) for Catholic churches that actually WERE Catholic. My parents went through a metamorphosis of reading more and more conservative papers, from the National Catholic Register, to the Wanderer, to the Remnant, to Catholic Family News. We were forever scandalized by the sight of clerics who were not behaving as we knew Catholic clergy should behave. I heard numerous sermons in churches, post Vatican II, where the priest said that the nativity story was made up by the early Christians to explain how Jesus was born, and numerous sermons saying that Jesus did not realize that He was God until the Transfiguration, amongst other blatantly heretical statements. I saw priests who would refuse communion to parishoners that were present at pro abortion rallys, but who would happily give communion to parishoners that were exposed living the homosexual lifestyle.
    My good friend, Fr. Eugene Heidt, now deceased, had his parish taken away from him shortly after his parishoners had just rebuilt his rectory. He petitioned then Archbishop of Oregon, William Levada to have a sabbatical to study the encyclicals of the past 100 years and was flatly refused. The Archbishop's reply to faithful, orthodox Fr. Heidt? "Everything before Vatican II was garbage."
    I was brought up to believe in the dogmatic, binding on the Catholic conscience forever councils of Trent and all that went before Vatican II. I have seen the Vatican II papal occupants overturn said councils, which, in my opinion, they had no authority or competency to do so. I have seen a mass implemented on the faithful that was written by 6 protestant ministers who do NOT believe in transubstantiation and two Jewish rabbis who do not accept Christ as their Messiah. I have seen the current papal occupant during his tenure under your 'fave' John Paul II position as head of what used to constitute the Holy Office write an abominable paper entitled The Hebrew People and Their Holy Scriptures in which Ratzinger not only blatantly told the Jewish people that Jesus was NOT their Messiah and that they were ok to wait for another, but said that this would be the second coming for Christians and would NOT be the same Jesus (Jesus the same, yesterday, today and forever) but only a 'being with only traces or traits of that first Jesus who came and is present and active amongst us" as one news story of the time quoted it.

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  32. I went recently and looked at the paper again on the vatican's website and saw that in the footnotes Ratzinger also called into question the infallibility of the Church's canon of the Old Testament, seeming to agree with the Protestant version of said canon, and leaning towards their opinion that those books should be considered Apocrypha:

    (30) Jews count 24 books in their Bible, called TaNaK, a word formed from the initials of Tôr

    1) The Catholic Church accepts 46 books in its Old Testament canon, 39 protocanonical books

    and 7 deuterocanonical, so called because the former were accepted with little or no debate,

    while the latter (Sirach, Baruch, Tobit, Judith, Wisdom 1,2 Maccabees and parts of Esther and

    Daniel) were accepted only after centuries of hesitation (on the part of certain Eastern Church

    Fathers as well as Jerome); the Churches of the Reformation call these "Apocrypha".

    I also saw that he blatantly denies the traditional teaching that the CHURCH IS the New Israel

    (305) The New Testament never calls the Church "the new Israel". In Ga 6:14 "the Israel of

    God" very likely designates Jews who believe in Christ Jesus.



    (and this is much exploited by Christian zionists today who want to help rebuild the temple in Jerusalem, said temple which was destroyed for the 'chosen' not accepting Jesus as their Messiah the first time around, and which, when Julian the apostate attempted to rebuild, God destroyed with lightning from the heavens and boulders of fire which came up and destroyed the new foundation stones that were being laid, and which also emblazoned crosses on the clothing of those who were not killed when God so destroyed Julian's attempt at rebuilding - crosses on these Jewish workers which could not be washed out - see the Rev. Leo Haydock's New Testament comments on his version of the Douay Rheims bible on Matthew 24:2 or the article on St. Cyril of Jerusalem in the Butler's lives of the Saints reprint by St. Bonaventure press.

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  33. Thirty Days in the Church and the World Magazine also had an article in the 1990s where they interviewed the head of the Italian lodges who admitted Angelo Roncalli was initiated into the masonic lodge as a Rosicrucian during his tenure in Turkey. Masons cannot be eligible candidates for the papacy. John Paul II and Ratzinger/B16 have continued the program of imposing masonic ecumenism and syncretism upon an unsuspecting or dumbed down Catholic populace. They tell people of other faiths that they 'worship the same God' which is a bold faced lie - Allah and the idea of God that the Talmudic based religion of Jewry follow is NOT the Holy trinity. I have had to conclude as many other Catholics who have chosen to keep the faith in our homes as Cardinal Manning and others predicted that Our Lady of LaSallette was correct in saying Rome would lose the faith and become the seat of Antichrist and the Church would be in eclipse. This Vatican II church is the Church of darkness as described by the incorrupt Anne Catherine Emmerich. You need to do research on this and open your eyes into what is going on. My 'Catholic' educated niece told me she does NOT believe in the church dogma Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus which many popes proclaimed infallible BEFORE Vatican II. Either they were right or these post V2 'popes' are right. They can't both be right.

    Also, Charles Webster Leadbetter, theosophist and friend of luciferians Alice Bailey and co, predicted the novus ordo missae or mass of the new order in his book The Science of the Sacraments, and this was also predicted in the Catholic Rev. E. Sylvester Berry's book The Apocalypse of St. John where he said that Antichrist would set up the false prophet as a kind of antipope in Rome during the vacancy of the papal chair and that this false prophet would impose an invalid mass closely resembling the real one, but which would lack grace. This goes along with what Jesus told Anna Catherine Emmerich about the new mass being Babel (see Yves Dupont's Catholic Prophecy TAN books) and that He would bless those who wanted to receive Him but that they would be receiving only bread.

    Leo XIII's long prayer to St. Michael when he heard that conversation between God and the devil includes this reference to the usurpation of the papal chair by masonic antipopes and the vacancy:
    In the Holy Place Itself, where is set up the See of the Most Holy Peter and the Chair of Truth for the Light of the World, They have Raised the Throne of Their Abominable Impiety with the Iniquitous Design so that when the pastor is Struck, the Sheep may be scattered.

    Catholics before Vatican II were UNITED in their faith - we had no divisions of 'liberal, modernist, conservative, traditionalist, sedevacantist,' etc. God has put many well informed Catholics in my way since deciding this had to be so, and we are suffering the same division issues that the protestants did when they left Peter - which to me is more evidence that these fellows since John 23 have not been real popes. They cannot with competency and authority deny what has gone before; and the tactic of the modernist has always been to say something orthodox sounding next to something blatantly heretical - or if you doubt this, read what Pope St. Pius X, incorrupt, had to say on the subject. When I pointed this out on a catholic blog years ago when I decided they had to be antipopes, and was getting flamed by the other pro novus ordo 'popes' members (never mind that if I had been a protestant heretic I would have been more than welcome there) one honest person wrote me and said, yes, these Vatican II popes do contradict what went before, but that is because truth is evolutionary, not absolute, to which I replied, not with the God I believe in. This subject was also covered in Edward Stourton's book Absolute Truth, by the way.

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  34. Anonymous - I wish you would have left a name. For now I will call you "scandalized". (In the mode of a Dear Abby column.)

    Dear scandalized,

    I skimmed over your comments. It will take me a while to read them fully, and it would take me much longer to answer fully. I don't plan on a full answer, but I'll just give a general reply.

    The gist of your comments seems to be that you disagree with the changes in the Catholic Church post Vatican II. Coincidentally I have been reading about people with similar views recently. Some have even left the Church due to their disagreements. I can't tell you how much this saddens me.

    I did not personally experience the turbulence created in the Church after Vatican II, since I only really accepted Catholicism recently. From what I understand, there were excesses with regards to the interpretation of Vatican II. This occurred especially among the more "liberal" elements of the Church.

    However, there has also been an excess reaction from the "conservative" side as well. Some have even suggested that the Popes after Piux XII are "anti-Popes". You seem to be in that group.

    While some of the information you provide above is useful, it is also loaded with disinformation. This seems to be designed to confuse faithful Catholics. Don't you see that in doing this you are doing as much harm to the Church as the anti-Catholics. No, it is not the same type of damage, but the ultimate effect is to weaken the foundation of the Church.

    One of the main foundations of the Church is the Papacy. In times like this we need to defend even more the Pope. As we can see by the response from the anti-religious forces in the UK during Pope Benedict XVI's historic visit, the Church is under a more vicious attack than ever.

    Divisions within the Church are used by our enemies to split the flock, like a pack of wolves would do in attacking a herd of sheep. Once some of the sheep are separated from the flock, they become easy victims.

    The Lord is our shepherd. His Vicar is the Pope. In order to survive through these turbulent times we must remain united.

    I think we can be "traditionalist" and still remain members of the same flock. The arms of the Catholic Church reach out widely, like the symbolic "arms" of the Vatican in St. Peter's Square. There is room for a tremendous amount of diversity. How else could the Church encompass so many different cultures around the world? Please try to embrace your fellow Catholics and find a place for yourself inside the Church which is not in direct conflict with Her.

    I have faith that all of these things that disturb you will be settled out over time. The turbulence in the Church is caused by the turbulence in the greater society. Like the boat of the disciples in the Sea of Galilee we are sometimes lashed by storms. We need to be patient and know that Jesus will come to calm the waters. Surely you realize from the history of the Catholic Church that She has been through times like this before and has always emerged triumphant.

    Our faith is being tested. I have noticed that many times before Jesus performed a miracle, he first tested the faith of the one pleading for it. And afterwards he commented that it was the person's faith that had led to their forgiveness. The True Miracle of the Gospel is that God forgives us for our sins. We shouldn't need any more signs and miracles than that.

    Peace be with you,
    baba

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  35. Disneyland is the biggest people trap ever built by a mouse.
    Filmgoer's Book of the Year 1978.

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